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Thursday, 15 November 2012

Stalin's name means: Son of a Jew. Part II



"Josef Dzhugashvili"

"central Asian Jews referred to themselves as Hebrews, Jews, or
Sons of Israel. The local Muslims referred to them as Dzhugar,"


In 1934, Czechoslovakian Jewish journalist Josef Heisler, was "sent" to Moscow to be the foreign correspondent for the Soviet newspaper Vecherniaya Moskva, a position he would hold for four years. He later claimed that during his time in Moscow, he became friends with Stalin's third wife, the Jewess Rosa Kaganovich (who officially never existed). In his 1961 book Stalin: The Miraculous Georgian, Heisler (writing under the nom de plume J. Bernard Hutton) even thanked his "friend" Rosa Kaganovich (who officially never existed) in his Author's Note for helping him "collect material which those, in the know, keep a well-guarded secret"!

Heisler/Hutton also asserted in that book, that Stalin's family name: ჯუღაშვილი (Jughashvili, often spelt Dzhugashvili and Djughashvili) means "Son of a Jew". I have examined this claim in great detail
here, and it's probably the most heavily researched article I've yet published on this blog, and there's no point re-hashing here what I previously wrote. Therefore in this far shorter article, I'll just lay out the new angle to the Stalin's real name means "Son of a Jew" that I've discovered.



Extract fromAn Ethnohistorical Dictionary of the Russian and Soviet Empires
Central Asian/Bukharan Jewry
Geographically, the area under discussion lies between the Amu-Darya and Syr-Darya rivers and is bounded by Russia, Afghanistan, and India. Once part of the Persian and Bactrian Empires, it became Muslim in the eighth century and remained so after the Mongol conquest in the thirteenth. The Russian Empire took it over in the second half of the nineteenth century and called it Russian Turkestan. In the Soviet period, it became the Bukhara Oblast of the Uzbek Soviet Socialist Republic (SSR), though the Turkmen and Tajik republics absorbed part of what had formerly been extended Bukhara.
The terms "Bukharan" and Central Asain Jews" are roughly synonymous. The term Bukharan Jews, however, was given to these Jews later by the Ashkenazim; central Asian Jews referred to themselves as Hebrews, Jews, or Sons of Israel. The local Muslims referred to them as Dzhugar, a term of contempt.

So, Muslims in what's now mostly Uzbekistan, call the local Jews a name which transliterates into English as "Dzhugar." And it's claimed the Dzhuga in Dzhugashvili (the most popular, but a poor transliteration of Stalin's family name from Georgian to Russian to English) means: "Jew."

Uzbekistan is, of course, not Georgia (the country of Stalin's birth), but nor is it particularly far away (480 miles at their closest points). What language the term "Dzhugar" is from, I don't know. Has the English transliteration (Dzhugar) been transliterated direct to English, or via Russian to English, again, I don't know. But I have emailed the professor who wrote the quoted book, and if he responds, I'll update the post as necessary.

Incidentally, it seems that "Dzhugar" is a type of millet, according to amongst others, Stalin's old friend Maxim Gorky.


Posted by The Black Rabbit of Inlé at 08:27

8 comments:

  1. I think this term ''Dzhugar'' might refer to the Jews of Daghestan:

    THE JEWS OF BUKHARA

    1. Their Origin: Legend and History

    The Jews of Bukhara belong to that branch of oriental Jewry that has been using the Persian vernacular for generations past. To this group belong, above all, the Jews of Persia ( Iran) who, until their mass migration to Israel, numbered more than 100,000, and the Jews of Afghanistan whose number at no time exceeded 8,000. Until World War II the Jews of Bukhara and Turkestan numbered some 60,000. If we add to these the Jews of Daghestan, who speak a special Persian dialect, the so-called Tatti, we arrive at a total of two hundred thousand Jews using the Persian vernacular or its derivatives*.

    *Source http://www.questia.com/library/637227/the-exiled-and-the-redeemed

    From Wiki:

    ''The word Daghestan is of Turkic and Persian origin. Dag means 'mountain' and -stan is a Persian suffix meaning 'land'. The word Daghestan therefore means "the land of mountains [...] A relatively large number of native Tati speaking Jews, designated by the Soviet state censuses as the "Mountain Jews" were also present in this same coastal areas, but since 1991 and the collapse of the Soviet Union they have migrated to Israel and the United States''.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dagestan
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    1. The Daghestan border is just 12 miles from the Georgian village Jughaani, which sits on the edge of the Caucasus mountains, and was long ago suggested as being the origin of Stalin's name.

      The old claim that Stalin's name could mean "son of a Jew" (in a mishmash of regional dialects) has some basis in truth at least.
      Delete
    2. In your original post on Stalin's name I think the term 'mountain' features quite a bit.

      I've a sneaky feeling the derogatory term given to these Jews might be something akin to our own 'Hillbilly'.

      Delete
  2. D'Zhu-gar
    Bul-gar
    Hun-gar
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  3. BRoI,

    Have a good look at this site:

    http://www.ethnologue.com/show_language.asp?code=jdt

    Example:

    Judeo-Tat

    A language of Russian Federation (Europe)

    Alternate names: Tati, Judeo-Tatic, Hebrew Tat, Jewish Tat, Bik, Dzhuhuric, Juhuri, Mountain Jewish, Lahji, Musulman Tats

    Also see below for possible 'Son of Iron'

    Iron People:

    ''The Iron are a subgroup of the Ossetians. They speak Iron dialect, one of the two main dialects of the Ossetic language. The vast majority of Irons are Eastern Orthodox''.

    Source http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron_people

    Iron Dialect:

    ''Iron (Ossetic: Ирон, Iron or Ирон æвзаг, Iron ævzag) is one of the two main dialects of the Ossetic language,[1] spoken in the Caucasus. The majority of the Ossetians speak Iron, notably in the East, South and Central parts of North Ossetia–Alania, while in the West the Digor dialect is more prevalent. The Iron dialect is the basis of the Ossetian written language''

    Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron_%28dialect%29

    And Finally:

    Digor Dialect

    ''Digor or Digorian (дигорон) is a dialect of the Ossetian language. The other is Iron, which is more widely spoken.

    The differences between the two are large enough to call them two languages—and that is done in some sources like the recently published Digor–Russian dictionary by Fedar Takazov (the compiler himself writes "Digor language", while the editor writes in the same book "Digor dialect").

    Digorian speakers live in the west of North Ossetia (Digora, Chikola and other places), in the capital of the republic Vladikavkaz and in larger cities of Russia. There is no precise statistics on that because Digorians are mostly calculated as Ossetians during census.''

    Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digor_dialect


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    1. Excellent stuff Henry. The Irons of Ossetia certainly offers a plausible origin for his nickname Man of Steel. It's a pity for court historians that they never though of it.

      Simon Seabag-Monteifiore states Stalin's paternal great-grandfather Zaza Jughashvili was an Ossetian, and from "semi-pagan mountain people". Specifically from the village of Geri, which was in the mountains, and that he settled in the Georgian town of Didi-Lilo c.1804, and was baptised. Another source (Childhood and School Years: Iosif Vissarionovich Jughashvili), states tha0 Stalin's paternal great-great-grandfather had lived in the Mtiuleti mountains. Stalin's ancestors were certainly Hillbillies.

      >>>> "Alternate names: Tati, Judeo-Tatic, Hebrew Tat, Jewish Tat, Bik, Dzhuhuric, Juhuri, Mountain Jewish"

      And his family name is similar to colloquialisms for Jews or Jewish.
      Delete
  4. There is a german blogger who presumes that Stalin´s real father was a jewish friend of the family, the merchant David Papismedov. But he gives us no further reasons for that claim, except of that, that Bessarion, stalin´s official father should have treated his family very harsh and finally left them after a few years, because of knowing or supposing that he was not the real father of Iosif. Stalin later invited Papismedov to visit the Kremlin and received him very warmhearted, it says.
    This what that blogger claims, not me.
    http://dikigoros.150m.com/stalin.htm

    Thank you very much for doing all this great research-work!
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    1. Thanks very much.

      To be fair to that German blogger, I've seen others claim that too.

      Rumours that Stalin was the result of an affair his mother had were abound in Gori (Stalin's home town) whilst he was a child. Even tribe-approved court historians discuss it quite seriously, though I don't recall them discussing a David Papismedov as a possible father.

      http://tinyurl.com/cs6mute
      http://tinyurl.com/c8u84ye
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