Iranian leader: Move Israel to Europe

Iranian leader Mahmoud Ahmadinejad:
Proposes committee
to clarify "Holocaust"
The Iranian President,
Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, said:

"Some European countries insist on saying that Hitler killed millions of innocent Jews in furnaces and they insist on it to the extent that if anyone proves something contrary to that they condemn that person and throw them in jail. Although we don't accept this claim, if we suppose it is true, our question for the Europeans is: is the killing of innocent Jewish people by Hitler the reason for their support to the occupiers of Jerusalem?"

Iran leader:
Move Israel to Europe

TEHRAN, Iran (Reuters, December 8, 2005) Iran's President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has expressed doubt that the Holocaust occurred and suggested Israel be moved to Europe.

His comments, reported by Iran's official IRNA news agency from a news conference he gave on Thursday in the Saudi Arabian city of Mecca, follow his call in October for Israel to be "wiped off the map," which sparked widespread international condemnation.

"Some European countries insist on saying that Hitler killed millions of innocent Jews in furnaces and they insist on it to the extent that if anyone proves something contrary to that they condemn that person and throw them in jail," IRNA quoted Ahmadinejad as saying.

"Although we don't accept this claim, if we suppose it is true, our question for the Europeans is: is the killing of innocent Jewish people by Hitler the reason for their support to the occupiers of Jerusalem?" he said.

"If the Europeans are honest they should give some of their provinces in Europe -- like in Germany, Austria or other countries -- to the Zionists and the Zionists can establish their state in Europe. You offer part of Europe and we will support it."

Historians say six million Jews were killed in the Nazi Holocaust. Ahmadinejad's remarks drew swift rebukes from Israel and Washington.

"This is not the first time, unfortunately, that the Iranian president has expressed the most outrageous ideas concerning Jews and Israel," said Israeli Foreign Ministry spokesman Mark Regev.

"He is not just Israel's problem. He is a worry for the entire international community," he added.

White House spokesman Scott McClellan said: "It just further underscores our concerns about the regime in Iran and it's all the more reason why it's so important that the regime not have the ability to develop nuclear weapons."

Once allies

Religious hardliners in Iran do not publicly deny the Holocaust occurred but say its scale has been exaggerated to justify the creation of Israel and continued Western support for it.

Close allies when Iran was ruled by the U.S.-backed Shah, Iran and Israel have become implacable foes since Iran's 1979 Islamic revolution.

Israel accuses Iran of giving arms and funding to militant Palestinian groups such as Islamic Jihad and of building nuclear weapons. Iran denies the charges.

Tehran calls Israel a "terrorist state" and has developed missiles which can reach it. It says it would use them if Israel, itself believed to be nuclear-armed, tried to bomb Iranian nuclear facilities.

Earlier in his remarks, the Iranian president, a former Revolutionary Guardsman who won a surprise election victory in June, said:

"The question is, where do those who rule in Palestine as occupiers come from? Where were they born? Where did their fathers live? They have no roots in Palestine but they have taken the fate of Palestine in their hands.

"Isn't the right to national self-determination one of the principles of the United Nations charter? Why do they deprive Palestinians of this right?"

Jews trace their roots in Israel back to Biblical times. [see "The Promised Land Lie" on bottom]

Ahmadinejad concluded his remarks by reiterating Iran's proposal that the Israeli-Palestinian conflict be resolved via a referendum of all the inhabitants of Israel, Gaza and the West Bank as well as Palestinian refugees in neighboring countries.

"Whatever they decide will be accepted by all humanity. This is a clear democratic solution which is based on international principles," he said.

Arnold Toynbee about
The Palestinian Question

Iranian official proposes
an international committee to clarify "Holocaust"

By DPA

TEHERAN - An Iranian official (on Friday 23/12/2005) called for the establishment of a committee to clarify the real extent of the Holocaust, the news agency Fars reported.

"[Iranian President Mahmoud] Ahmadinejad wants European governments to allow Western scholars to publish their research on the Holocaust," Mohammad-Ali Ramin, head of the Society for defending the rights of Muslim minorities in the West, told Fars.

"Ahmadinejad should therefore propose establishment of an international committee for clarifying the real extent of the Holocaust," the official added.

There has been no reaction yet by the Iranian president or government on the proposal.

Ramin praised Ahmadinejad for having voiced his doubts over the Holocaust and the need for relocating the Jews to Europe if Europeans really did the massacre during the Second World War.

"In the last twenty years the previous governments refrained from referring to this issue for the sake of leading a detente policy with the West where doubting the Holocaust is a crime," Ramin said, referring to the detente policies of ex-presidents Akbar Hashemi- Rafsanjani and Mohammad Khatami.

"But the more we distanced ourselves from our revolutionary stance and the urge for justice (in Palestine), the more we lost our opportunities in foreign relations," he added.

Ramin said that Ahmadinejad, however, was "no man of retreat" and someone who would decisively support national and religious interests in international forums.

Source:
( http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/661803.html )
24/12/2005

Ahmadinejad Iran wants to investigate EU rights abuses
Iran Focus  Saturday, 14 January 2006

TEHRAN - Radical Iranian President Mahmoud 
Ahmadinejad demanded once again on Saturday 
that Iran be permitted to send inspectors to evaluate
'human rights abuses' in the European Union.

In a press conference in Tehran which was aired on 
state television, Ahmadinejad said that Tehran was 
ready to dispatch a committee to states which accuse 
it of violating human rights. Iran would then allow 
inspectors from those countries to come to Iran to 
carry out their evaluations, he said.

'We will send teams to write and publish reports on 
the condition of jails, tortures,discriminations, election 
procedures, economic actions that end up against the 
benefit of their people, support for terrorists, as well 
as the judicial, parliamentary, and administrative 
systems of countries that claim tospeak out for human 
rights.


http://www.iranfocus.com/modules/news/article.php?storyid=5308
Iran Defends Planned Holocaust Conference
Jan 24 - 2006

By ALI AKBAR DAREINI
Associated Press Writer
TEHRAN, Iran
http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/01/24/D8FBCD7O0.html

Iran on Tuesday defended its plan to organize a conference to examine what it terms the scientific evidence for the Holocaust.

At the United Nations, the Israeli ambassador said the conference plans were proof that Iran was run by an "extreme, fundamentalist, lunatic regime."

The planned conference, which has drawn condemnation from Western leaders, is yet another step in hard-line President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's public campaign against Israel.

"For over half a century, those who seek to prove the Holocaust have used every podium to defend their position. Now they should listen to others," Iran's Foreign Ministry spokesman, Hamid Reza Asefi, was quoted as saying Tuesday by the official Islamic Republic News Agency.

Ahmadinejad already had called the Nazis' World War II slaughter of 6 million European Jews a "myth" and said the Jewish state should be "wiped off the map."

Dan Gillerman, Israel's ambassador to the United Nations, said the planned conference was "proof of what a global threat Iran really is."

"I fear that the only reason Iran is showing so much interest in the Holocaust is because they may be preparing another Holocaust and it is up to the world and the United Nations to prevent that from happening," Gillerman told The Associated Press on the sidelines of the opening of the "No Child's Play" exhibit at the U.N. commemorating Holocaust remembrance week.

IRNA quoted Asefi as saying: that "blind prejudice together with political interests and aims have closed the eyes of the Holocaust defenders to the realities of the world, and they reject without any logic a scientific conference."

Iran's Foreign Ministry, which was expected to sponsor the conference, has yet to fix a date or place. It was not clear who might attend.

"Iran is proving yet again what an extreme, fundamentalist, lunatic regime it is," Gillerman said.

Ahmadinejad has been issuing the highly inflammatory comments about Israel and the Holocaust in conjunction with the country's deepening confrontation with the West over its nuclear activities. The United States and its allies accuse Iran of seeking nuclear weapons. Tehran says the program is its right under the Nonproliferation Treaty and is designed for electricity generation.

Russia's national security chief and Iran's top nuclear negotiator said Tuesday that the nuclear standoff must be resolved by diplomatic efforts in the U.N. atomic watchdog agency.

The Kremlin statement reflected Russia's efforts to delay Iran's referral to the U.N. Security Council and Moscow's opposition to international sanctions against Tehran.
Quoting

Arnold Toynbee
from his 1963 article entitled:
Two Aspects of The Palestinian Question

(Start Quote)

"I can understand the Jews demanding, after their experience at Nazi hands, that they should be given some piece of territory somewhere in the world, where they would be masters in their own house and where there would be an asylum for any Jews who, in future might be threatened with a repetition of what the Nazis did.

But, if the Jews had a claim to be given a piece of territory, this should have been done at the expense of the Western nation that had done its worst to exterminate the Jews..

If the creation of a new state of Israel was judged to be a legitimate form of compensation to the surviving Jews, the territory for this state should have been taken from the Europeans, not from the Arabs.

The new Israel should not have been carved out of Arab Palestine; it should have been carved out of Central Europe.

This point seems to me to be simple and obvious. But, once, when I made it in a lecture in a Western country*, (not Germany, not Britain), it was received with shouts of laughter.

The people who laughed were not Jews; they were non-Jewish Westerners, and the country was one that has been traditionally opposed to colonialism.

Yet, they laughed because it seemed to them preposterous that a Western nation should be made to pay for its own crimes with its own territory, when the West's moral debt to the Jews could, so it seemed to these Westerners, be settled by giving the Jews the territory of a non-Western people that committed no crime at all against the Jews.

This laughter shocked me because it revealed to me what seems to me a shocking persistence of the colonialist attitude of mind. A guilty Western people's territory was to be sacrosanct, because, though guilty, they were Westerners.

An innocent non-Western people's territory could, it was held, legitimately be given away to the Jews by the victorious Western powers.This amounts to the declaration of the inequality of the Western and the non-Western sections of the human race.

It is a claim that Westerners are privileged, however guilty they may be. It is a denial of those universal human rights that, in truth, are possessed by every man, woman, and child in the world, irrespective of differences in civilization; religion, nationality and race."

(End Quote)

*The country that Arnold Toynbee refers to is Canada and it was in his lecture at McGill University in Montreal.

Professor of political science Abdullah Mohammad Sindi says there was no such a thing as the "holocaust" and argues that it is in fact Israel which has created a real holocaust for Palestinians.

Israel has created a real holocaust for Palestinians

Tehran, 2005/12/26

On December 18, the Mehr News Agency conducted an interview with him to learn his views on why Western countries were so outraged when the Iranian president said that if the Westerners are sincere and believe in the Holocaust, then why don't they give part of their land to the Jews and asked why the Palestinians should have to pay the penalty for the West's crimes. Following is the text of the interview:

Q: Iranian President Mahmud Ahmadinejad said that he thinks that the Holocaust is a myth. However, he also said some European countries insist that millions of innocent Jews were killed during the Second World War by Hitler, and asked why the Europeans don't give part of their land to the Jews if they are correct. What is your view?

A: I agree wholeheartedly with President Ahmadinejad. There was no such a thing as the "holocaust". The so-called "holocaust" is nothing but Jewish/Zionist propaganda. There is no proof whatsoever that any live Jew was ever gassed or burned in Nazi Germany or in any of the territories that Nazi Germany occupied during World War Two. The holocaust propaganda was started by the Zionist Jews in order to acquire world-wide sympathy for the creation of Israel after World War Two. I detailed all of this in my book (The Arabs and the West: The Contributions and the Inflictions)

I also wrote a detailed article entitled "The Holocaust is a Typical Zionist Myth" (http://abbc.net/sindi/typic.htm)

President Ahmad Nejad is 100% correct and 100% logical when he stated that if the European countries keep insisting that Nazi Germany gassed and burned 6 million live Jews, then Germany or Austria should be the real location for this rogue state of Israel. In fact, this illegal and illegitimate state of Israel is the one that created a real holocaust against the Palestinian people, both Muslim and Christian.

Q: If they are right, surely they can prove that the Holocaust really took place. Why do they shun any discussion of the Holocaust?

A: The Western people, both Europeans and Americans, who think they have freedom of speech, cannot freely discuss the "holocaust". There is a big conspiracy in the West to keep everyone silent from freely discussing the "holocaust". In fact, anyone who dares to deny the "holocaust" openly in the Western media will be in deep trouble. Accordingly, there is no real freedom in the West. The freedom in the West stops when it comes to discussing the "holocaust" freely. The Jews and the Zionists control the Western media and the publishing houses, both in Europe and the USA, and they prevent anyone from expressing a free opinion on the so-called "holocaust". I agree with President Ahmadinejad that no one in the entire West can prove any of the Jewish/Zionist lies on the "holocaust".

Q: Why has the Holocaust become a dogma while the killing of other people across the world goes unnoticed?

A: The Western governments and media are hypocritical liars. They keep talking constantly about their own Western victims or Israeli victims in any situation, real or imagined, including kidnapping. But these so-called freedom-loving Westerners do not care a bit about their own colonial and imperialist wars that cause the death of millions of innocent Muslims and others around the world.

Q: Why have revisionists been banned from discussing the Holocaust and why are those who express any doubts treated like heretics?

A: Many revisionists in the so-called free West, such as Ernest Zundel and Dr. David Irving, have been banned and viciously attacked throughout the West for publicly expressing their free opinions on the so-called "holocaust". Israel is an extension of the West and all Western governments and media support it blindly 100%. While anyone in the West has the right to publicly say or write anything critical about anything, no one in this so-called "free" and "democratic" West dares to attack Israel or deny any of its lies, including the lies of the so-called "holocaust". Anyone who attacks Israel or its lies is either banned, attacked, labeled as racist, or lose his job and career. In short, Israel controls the West, and not the other way around. The Jews and the Zionists rule the world by proxy. That is exactly what former Malaysian Prime Minister Mahathir Mohamed said in October 2003 during the 10th Islamic Summit Conference in Malaysia.

Dr. Abdullah Mohammad Sindi is a Saudi Professor of Political Science who taught at King Abdulaziz University in Jeddah, Saudi Arabia. He has also taught in the USA at the University of California in Irvine, California State University at Pomona, Cerritos College, and Fullerton College. The author of several publications, both in Arabic and English, Dr. Sindi now lives and works in California where obtained BA, MA, and Ph.D. degrees in the 1960s and 1970s. He is the author of the book The Arabs and the West: The Contributions and the Inflictions.

MS/HG

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